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  1. Whether the grant of GP 5400 after completion of 4 years service as AAO with GP 4800 will be effective from 01.01.2016, as if the person who completed 4 years continuous service as AAO as on 01.01.2016 will get the same, or from any previous date. Please clarify... (Let us hope that we get GP 5400 without further delay)

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  2. Those who have completed 4 years or more as on 1-1-2014 may be getting 5400 from that date, since the same has been recommended by 7CPC.

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  3. Thank you very much, Sir.

    As you have shown your camaraderie in replying many of our queries, I want to know some information. I know that you have cracked the UN Audit Exam and selected for audit assignment in Mexico. I am aspirant in this field. But I came to know from my office that there was no syllabus for that exam. Now, I want to know how you prepared yourself for that exam and items you have studied... Please, share sir.
    Harsh

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  4. Sir, Hqtrs office had issued certain clarifications to certain offices regarding withdrwal/not to give pay fixation benefits as per MoF orders dated 10/2015 to the officers promoted as AAO from SO during the period 1.1.2006 to 29.8.2008 and got stepping up of pay with their juniors. This is a retrograde step as stepping up of pay has got no relevance to the promotion given. Request NAF to take up the case immediately with HQTRS offices to withdraw this clarification. Thanks

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    1. Sir, what is the present position of the case. Whether a favourable order can be expected

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  5. Dear Harish, I have a certain study materials which I used for the preparation. If you send a request on my email id, I can forward the materials to you.

    Dear Sudhakar,

    The issue was brought to my notice by Mr. Renganatha Malli of odisha office. Certainly, we will try to solve the issue.

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  6. Sir,what is latest position of 5400 GP to AAO

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  7. I have joined as accountant in 03/2010 and promoted as aao in 10/2012. I have also passed incentive exam in 2014. after getting four increment as AAO but my pay was fixed 47600 as per seventh cpc what reason please clarify it.

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    1. mritunjayKumar, AAO/PatnaSeptember 6, 2016 at 2:11 AM

      Manishji same case for me. Sujith Sir! Please guide us what can we take next step for remove this anomaly. In my office approx 10 AAOs are facing same situation.

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    2. Pay as on 10/2012 - 13350 plus 4800
      Pay as on 07/2013 - 13900 plus 4800
      Pay as on 07/2013 - 14470 plus 4800
      Pay as on 07/2014 - 15050 plus 4800 (Normal Increment)
      Pay as on 07/2014 - 15650 plus 4800 (Assuming that you have passed incentive in July 2014)
      Pay as on 07/2015 - 16270 plus 4800
      Pay as on 01/2016 - 55200 {(16270+4800)*2.57 = 54149.90 equivalent to 55200 in the pay matrix)

      All are given assuming your pay. Please give details for further clarification, if required.

      Partha

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    3. Manish: 47600 is the minimum in the pay matrix under level 8 which is arrived by multiplying 18150 (13350+4800) with 2.62. Since your grade pay was below 13350 as on 1-1-2016, you have been given minimum in level 8. This was the mistake done in the 6CPC which has now been rectified by 7CPC. That is different pay for promotee and direct recruits. The only method to rectify the same is the way as shown by Mr. Partha. But for which you have to represent individually and then through your local association/federation. The base for the above calculation can be taken from para 10.1.67 (i) of 7CPC report relating to the calculation method for pension. This calculation was given by 7CPC to rectify the mistake done by 6CPC but the same has not been accepted by the government as on date. Let us wait for the government acceptance and after that only submit your representation. Thanks to Partha for the detailed illustration.

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  8. mritunjayKumar, AAO/PatnaSeptember 5, 2016 at 8:13 PM

    Sujith sir! As you know, issuance of order/circular from C&AG hq. regarding non function upgradation (grade pay 5400 after four yrs.) to AAOs is the most awaited amongst all beneficial AAOs. So kindly give your valuable comment and status of latest position of this issue on weekly basis.

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    1. Regarding 5400 after 4 years: it was told that the ministry of finance, DoPT have conformed that the employees in IA&AD is eligible for the same. This was ensured orally but waiting for a written reply from the ministry. It is expected to be issued within a few days.

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  9. mritunjayKumar, AAO/PatnaSeptember 7, 2016 at 12:42 AM

    Sujith Sir! Thanks for your quick response.

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  10. Congratulation Sujith Sir for making the circular bearing no 06-Staff(Appt.)/PC Cell/01-2016 dated 05 September 2016 in response to your letter no. NAF/16-18/10 dated 30.08.2016. I have a small question. The 01 January 2006 was Sunday and hence no promotion was issued on that day. So, all the promotions in the year 2006 was given earlier on 02.01.2006. Thus, the target date of 31.12.2015 may not be fruitful in spite of the fact that 01.01.2016 starts (may be) a new era. Please, have your say.

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  11. sanjoy/AAO-UK(A&E) DEHRADUNSeptember 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM

    latest position of 5400 grade pay for aao after 4 years service. pl. update

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  12. Name Old GP Total Incrt earn
    basic as aao in sixth pay
    A 9730 4800 14530 1
    B 10170 4800 14970 2
    C 10720 4800 15520 0
    D 11220 4800 16020 2
    E 11780 4800 16580 4
    F 12150 4800 16950 2
    G 11700 4800 16500 3
    If bunching order applied which is issued by finance ministry on dated 07/09/2016 on all of them please fix pay for All of the above employee.

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    1. mritunjayKumar, AAO/PatnaSeptember 11, 2016 at 2:19 AM

      Sujith Sir! kindly reply the query of Manish/AAO. in the light of bunching order issued by MoF what is the procedure for pay fixation of above mention AAOs. Please sir give your valuable comment on this query.

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    2. Dear Manish, This is a peculiar situation come up due to the impact of 6CPC entry cadre minimum pay.
      As per 7cpc bunching rules 5.1.36-37, if situation arise whenever more than two stages are bunched together, one additional increment equal to 3 per cent may be given for every two stages bunched and pay fixed in the subsequent cell in the pay matrix.
      However, the illustration given in 5.1.37, shows how the effect of bunching is being given under normal circumstances.
      In the said circumstances 7 stages will be bunched into 47600 (minimum pay in level 8) But applying the government order on the basis of 7cpc recommendations, more than two levels can not be bunched together. This gives some confussion and needs clarification for the finance ministry/CAG. Let us wait for the clarification.

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  13. One more demand should be raised as we all are remain on tour throughout the year mobile and internet connection is necessary to receive information forwared by hq and remain in contact with them
    For this mobile connection with internet connection is must in todays scenerio

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  14. This demand was already included in our mommorandum submitted to 7CPC This was also forwarded to 7CPC by CAG. Now we have to make a demand in this regard with the CAG.

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  15. Sujith Sir! Thanks for your quick response. IN my office seventeen aao fixed minimum 47600. Yes I will wait clarification for the same from CAG or ministy

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  16. Any updates on 5400 gp or level 9 for aao after four years
    There is rumours that cag signed order

    Sujjith sir please offer your detailed comments as everyone is waiting for your response

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  17. Plz update all regd 5400

    My earlier post doesn't appear here

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  18. As per information received, no clarification has received in the headquarters as on 16-09-2016

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  19. As per president earlier statements order on 5400 is going to be issued within two to three days

    My question from what date we should count two or three days

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  20. CAG ke 20 june 2016 ke order ke anusar sabhi aao ko macp ke lie direct recruitment man lia gaya hai . kaya 2009 ke bad ke promoted aao ko entry pay dene se sambandhit koi prakaran headquarter me hai?
    kaya aisa bhi pay rules me hota hai ki direct recruitee ko entry pay nahi milta hai?

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  21. Yes you are right. If the promotee to the post of AAO is treated at par with direct recruit, the pay should also be equal to that of direct recruits. that is all promotee should also be paid with entry cadre minimum pay. You can represent for the same. Request your office to send your request to the headquarters office.

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  22. Is there any requirement to approve bunching order from HQ. Our office wants to clarify as we have submitted bunching order issued by ranchi office. Kindly comments...

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  23. Good morning Sujith Kumarji,
    Kindly provide us with the details of latest position of meetings held on 25 Oct.
    Further, is there any progress in issues like (i) 5400/- after 4 years to AAOs, (ii) HRA and TA, whether report (by Mr. Lavasa) submitted or conclusions arrived at (iii) good to very good criteria for the next ten years would lead to sycophancy as the Damocles' sword will be hanging over the heads of everyone.
    Please brief....
    Rao, (AG/Mumbai)

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  24. Please check the home page for minutes of national executive meeting. Regarding 5400 after 4 years, it is understood that the file is pending with E-III-A (department of Finance - Expenditure) since 18-10-2016. I am in contact with them. Hope this will be cleared soon.

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    1. Sir nearly one month over since file pending with fm is there any timeline given

      In recent order of dopt stated that in which matter pm has already given consent
      Should be immediately implemented

      As letter from Cag clearly stated that it's been approved by government why there is too much delay

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    2. Thanks a lot, Even the letter addressed to all the affiliated units (dated 11.11.2016) with agenda points gives clarity. Can we discuss the issue of two consecutive attempts for SAS given to Accounts in the same meeting, so that candidates who have exhausted their attempts could exercise their attempt in the coming examination.
      All the best for 23rd meeting with Dy.CAG. We all are with you.
      Regards, Rao(AG/Mumbai)

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  25. sir, whether the case of withdrawing pay fixation benefits(SO to AAO) to the officials who got stepping up of pay had been taken up with Hqtrs office.

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  26. SIR
    THIS IS BURNING RUMOUR THAT CAG REDUCE STRENGTH AT ALL LEVEL i.e.AAO/SR.AR./AR. SO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IF AAO STRENGTH FOUND SURPLUS,IF EXCESS AAO FOUND SO WHAT WAS GOING ON ARE THEY REVERTED TO THEIR POST OR THEY WERE TRANSFERED ANY WHERE IN INDIA

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  27. what about AAO GP 5400 it is 5 months now even PM / FM has been written no response, when it is likely and from 1.1.2016 or 1.1.2014??? can you reply for benefit of all

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  28. Any news on gp 5400 as DOPT is taking 5 months for one order

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  29. Any news on rationalisation of cadre in IA&AD. Please share..

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  30. Please pursue the matter of not declaring SAS/CPD/RAE Exams even after elspse of more than 90 days and circulate the reason of such inordinate delay...
    Thanking you in anticipation...

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  31. Sir, warm regards.
    I had appeared in SAS 2014 exam.. and declared successful in all 10 papers, latter my result was declared null and void and reason for the same sighted that I had not completed the probation period.
    It is worth mentioning here that I had been previously working as Data Entry operator in Arunachal pradesh and after technical resignation I joined in Bihar office as an Auditor and served here 1 1/2 years. Further, it was not our concern to know the pre required criteria for taking SASExam, it was offered to us to take exam. So I opted for the same.
    Further, if a direct AAO does not pass departmental exam in 6 chances. He or she is terminated but due to mercy he or she is freshly appointed as Auditor then he must serve two years as probation period but their service as well as previously passes paper is count. Tell me what to do, it is an injustice or not
    ..

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  32. Dear Sir,
    Any updates regarding DEO's promotion in Auditor Cadre

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  33. Sir, the details of the account number only has been given for dealing in court cases. No details regarding the bank name, branch name and IFSC code had been given. pls provide the same as it may help the individuals to deposit the money directly into the account. Further it would be helpful if the details of the case viz placing in the higher scale is not promotion etc are given nor the details of the person to who to be contacted for getting the details may pls be given.

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  34. sir, pls give the details of the bank name, branch name and the name of the account holder to deposit the amount directly. Further the details of the case viz. placing in the higher scale is not promotion etc may also be given nor the person to be contacted for getting the details may be given.

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  35. Why CAG has not given clarification on bunching order.... Even ministry of finance has clarified on 23 february 2017 that AAOs are entitled for bunching.... They also gave example of babu bale ram jee AAO in this regard... Lalit ji kindly persue the matter with the authority....

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  36. Why they are not posting DEO B in EDP Cell, Sr. Aruditor are still there as a senior console operator but as per new recruitment rule there is no post of Sr. Console operator. As per new recruitment post is DEO A, B, C, D like that.

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  37. Sujith sir please update on 5400 case as it's already too late

    Most of members in depression due to this

    Please update every moment how to pursue

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  38. You should bring UP CM to manage DOPT
    Slackness in work to shape DOPT sleeping for 9 Month for just issuing orders for AAO go 5400
    Let's involve Modi to know how bad governance in DOPT as there is no audit on DOPT performance

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  39. To

    Shri Narendra Modi,
    The Hon’ble Prime Minister of India,
    South Block, Raisina Road,
    NEW DELHI: 110011. Phone No: +91-11-23012312

    Subject: ​Request for implementation of recommendation of Seventh CPC with regard to grant of Grade Pay of Rs.5400 after completion of 4 years of service to Assistant Audit Officers/ Assistant Accounts Officers of IA&AD & Organised Accounts Department-regarding.

    Reference: ​Chapter 11. 12.138, 11. 12. 139 and 11. 12.140 of recommendations of 7thCPC.

    Respected Sir,

    The Cabinet, under your chairmanship, has approved the recommendations of the Seventh Central Pay Commission (CPC) for implementation of the same.

    In case of Assistant Audit Officers/ Assistant Accounts Officers of Indian Audit & Accounts Department (IA&AD) and Organised Accounts Departments, who are in Grade Pay of Rs 4800, the recommendations made by the CPC with regard to “upgrading on completion of four years’ service to Grade Pay of 5400 (PB-2), viz., Pay level 9, in the pay matrix” has been approved by the Cabinet. However, in Gazette Notification in case of Defence Accounts Department and Railway Accounts Department it was mentioned that the matter would be referred to the Secretary, DOPT for examination.

    It is a matter of concern that even at the time of implementation of Sixth CPC recommendations, despite the Cabinet’s approval, in Gazette Notification the name of Section Officers of Organised Accounts Departments and of IA&AD were omitted resulting in non-implementation of Cabinet decision. The Seventh CPC has mentioned about the then Cabinet decision in Chapter 11. 12. 138 (Copy enclosed). It is a matter of great concern for not only the employees but also for the country that bureaucracy dares to even deny carrying out the decisions of the Cabinet.

    Unfortunately, this time also, despite Cabinet’s approval, the recommended pay scales for the Assistant Audit Officers/ Assistant Accounts Officers of IA&AD & Organised Accounts Department as approved by you in Cabinet meeting has not yet been implemented. The relevant portion of recommendations made in Chapter 11.12.140 by the present CPC is enclosed for immediate reference. It may not be out of place to mention here, how the founding fathers of the Constitution had foreseen this problem and pointed out in the Constituent Assembly about the need for independence of Audit is required more than the judiciary as the judiciary broadly deals with criminals but audit deals with function of Executive.

    This Confederation urges upon you to look into this matter and kindly cause appropriate action to ensure that bureaucracy do not tamper with Cabinet decision to satisfy their ill-conceived antagonistic attitude towards the audit and accounts departments and the appropriate orders may please be issued conferring the approved pay fixation benefits to the AAOs, by upgrading their Grade Pay to Rs 5400 (PB- 2) in pre revised pay scale on completion of 4 years of service as AAO and thereafter fixing the pay under the new Pay level - 9 in the pay matrix as recommended by the 7th CPC.

    An early action is solicited, please.

    Thanking you, Sir,

    Yours faithfully,



    (A.​B. Sen)

    Secretary General



    (Encl. Extracts from Chapter- 11.12.138, Chapter 11. 12. 139 and Chapter-11.12.140 of the 7CPC Report.)

    Prime Minister's Office
    SouthBlock, RaisinaHill
    NewDelhi-110011

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  40. DOPT performance is praised ? Modi should audit DOPT performance like UP CM

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  41. Sir,
    what is the status of allowances? it is stated that the committee is meeting associations. what is the role of NAF, pls clarify

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  42. Sir,kindly pursue the matter regarding application of Nov 2016 circular on seniority to all existing AAOs for fair and impartial treatment to both departmental and direct officials

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  43. i wish to bring your kind attention with regard to reimbursement ofTA/DA issue in respect of G&SSA TN&P wherein if a AAO/AO/Sr Ar falls sick during the course of audit and if he joins in the next unit of audit or in the same unit he will not entitled for TA/DA for to and fro the matter has been taken up with the local AG however our legitimate demand was not acceded to hence i request you take up the matter with the respective authorities concerned

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  44. Sir, Grant of Grade Pay of Rs. 5400 to AAOs whether effective from 1/1/2006 or from 1/1/2016.Please clarify.

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  45. Sir, Grant of Grade Pay of Rs. 5400 to AAOs whether effective from 1/1/2006 or from 1/1/2016.Please clarify.

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  46. Sir, Grant of Grade Pay of Rs. 5400 to AAOs whether effective from 1/1/2006 or from 1/1/2016.Please clarify. Viswanathan, Bangalore

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  47. Today I came across with an order of granting enhanced DA to be given to person retired on 3oth June as that was implemented in AG, Hyderabad. The references are (as mentioned in the website)
    a) CAT Hyderabad Bench OA No.552 of 2003;( I think judgement, though not mentioned in the website)
    b) High Court , Andhra Pradesh WRIT PETITION NO.26506 OF 2012 dt.11/9/2012
    c) Supreme Court SLP No.16237/2013 dt.27.10.2014
    d) Through Lr No.PAG(G&SSA)/Legal Cell/RTI/F.No.118/2016-17/D.No.45 dt.02/11/2016 intimated that Supreme Court order was implemented for payment of Retirement Gratuity & cash equivalent to leave salary.

    I have only found the judgement of Supreme Court. I am not able to collect other documents. As I have retired on 30th June this year, please help me out for following favourable action.

    1) Is the order as mentioned above are for similarly placed persons or only for the applicants.
    2) If applicable to others, whether could you please have me a copy of all those orders so that I can apply to my HOD.

    SG Sir, Please help.

    Anil

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  48. AAO GP 5400 AFTER 4 YRS....PL UPDATE CURRENT STATUS

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  49. AAO GP 5400 AFTER 4 YRS....PL UPDATE CURRENT STATUS

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  50. PL UPDATE THE CURRENT STATUS OF AAO GP 5400 AFTER 4 YRS IN IA&AD

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  51. Sir...Any updates regarding gp 5400 to aao after 4 yrs...We are all very eager..Much time has elapsed since 10/2016

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  52. Please enlighten whether Revision of Grade Pay of Rs. 5400 after 4 years is from 01/01/2006 or from 01/01/2016. Viswanathan, Bangalore

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  53. Sir...Any updates regarding gp 5400 to aao after 4 yrs in IA&AD...We are all very eager..Much time has elapsed since 10/2016

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  54. Sir...Any updates regarding gp 5400 to aao after 4 yrs in IA&AD...We are all very eager..Much time has elapsed since 10/2016

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  55. Please update the current status of AAO GP 5400 after 4 years in IA&AD

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  56. Please update the current status of AAO GP 5400 after 4 years in IA&AD

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  57. More than 10 months have elapsed since orders of 7th CPC, but information regarding revision of grade pay of Rs. 5400 to AAOs. What is latest position

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  58. Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Any one tell me about
    empPAY GP BASIC increment earned
    A 9730 4800 14530 1
    B 10170 4800 14970 2
    C 10720 4800 15520 0
    D 11220 4800 16020 2
    E 11780 4800 16580 4
    F 12150 4800 16950 2
    G 11700 4800 16500 3
    If bunching order applied which is issued by finance ministry on dated 03/08/2017 on all of them please fix pay for All of the above employee.

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  59. Sir, More than one year has elapsed, DOPT is yet issue orders for revision of GPS of Rs. 5400 in respect of AAOs after 4 years. Why DOPT is prolonging in issue of orders for revision of GPS when every thing is clear. Please anybody enlighten whether the revision of GPS is effective from 01/01/2006.

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    1. Dear Visswanathan ji,

      Hope you might have received the benefit of GP5400 after 5 years. It is w.e.f. 1-01-2016

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  60. Is this forum not operative any more that our most heart rending requests are not heard and answered ??
    I repeat " AAOs of IA&AD non functional upgradation to 5400 after 4 yrs of servive as aao "....status still not answered....is it not even answerable ??

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  61. Hope you might have received the benefit of GP5400 after 5 years. It is w.e.f. 1-01-2016

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